The correlation between high absolute rents in large cities and homelessness is being used to promote “build more housing” as a solution to homelessness.
Thank you. The incentives listed would be a good start. But there needs to be a support system in place for after they’re housed. Most will fail due to ongoing addiction or just not having any lifeskills, ie knowing how to cook, clean, shop, budget money, etc. Even with welfare paying the rent guaranteeing a roof, they just don’t know how to live under one.
Then there’s the rehabs. They are usually sent back to their home without support. If the building or area allow active users (which is how they got in in the first place) they are easy prey and fall right back into addiction.
There is so much that needs to be done besides just housing. And dropping the rent to “affordable” is only a drop in the bucket. Until the problem is looked at wholistically, it will continue to be a problem.
Could you provide details or point me to where I could find details about the cash housing assistance? I’m having trouble finding details online, but I assume they prob wouldn’t just advertise that right on the homepage. My friend and I don’t even live in California, but we were discussing this the other day, and like probably a lot of people, genuinely puzzled about why it’s so bad, and why no one does anything about it. I mean San Fran has this reputation as this like super liberal city, and maybe it is, but it’s not like it’s socialist to my knowledge, and I feel like the liberals are just as fed up anyways. So yea I’m definitely curious about what material incentives/programs/subsidies the city provides, so if you could help me find details on like concrete programs, and who and how they’re being used, I’d be obliged.
What in GOD'S Name do you think you are doing? Stop talking about things you know absolutely nothing about and blaming others. People are homeless due to greed and inhumanity. And you would be counted among that.
If you have so much empathy for homeless people you ought to be able to muster up some empathy for someone who is writing about the issue, even if she's incorrect in your view. If the root problem is inhumanity then be an example.
People are homeless due to the greed of investors and financiers, who have gone to the utmost extreme throughout nearly every industrialized nation that does not have means to provide affordable housing. The entire original blog is based on false premises. Time and again rent collusion has been shown to increase rent prices and "economics" is complete b.s. because the reality is, our culture allows unlimited rents to be charged and provides tax subsidies and benefits to property owners and investors. Housing is even more expensive in every other English-speaking country and the only solutions are those found in non-English speaking countries. The OP is correct that "building more housing" won't solve the problem because in the US alone, there are 17 to 18 million vacant homes, far more than there are people who need a roof over their heads. The problem is rampant financialism and massive unchecked greed that everyone who has a place and decent house payment ignores.
Coercive states like North Korea, Cuba and the USSR have "solved" homelessness, in part by building lots of housing, in part by imprisoning rule breakers, in part by lying about statistics and in part by having favorable demographics. But overall it's a global, English-speaking AND non-English-speaking problem that has always existed.
Do you know how many people are in prison in the U.S.? In raw numbers and percent of population, the U.S. has the world’s largest prison & jail population.
I gave the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Homelessness their tour of Skid Row DTLA and South Los Angeles in 2010. The 2020 one wrote the same report - only WORSE.
Yes, but we don't coerce people into building housing and we don't imprison people for speaking up against the government. We tend to imprison people for repeated convictions for violet crimes, the average inmate having been convicted of around 5 times and charged nearly a dozen times.
The US is almost unique in that it has large segments of the population that commit violent crime at a high rate as well as the state capacity to arrest and imprison them. If Latin America, for example, had a similar state capacity they would have a larger proportion of incarcerated. If Western Europe or Japan had similar rates of crime they would also imprison as much as we do, if not more. Russia is one of the few places with both a lot of violence and a state that arrests a lot, and consequently it actually approaches are level of incarceration.
It's disappointing that our liaisons to the UN seem to be so emotional and lacking in informed perspective.
Who is "we"? Julian Assange was just released after being held in solitary confinement in UK on US charges since 2019, he was in some form of confinement since 2010. I'll just cite Wikipedia. By the way, Mr/Ms Anonymous, I have consulted on Nat Sec issues for the past 7-8 years. The US is in extremely bad shape and there will only be more homeless unless there is a change of course away from the laissez-faire policies which have led to this horrible situation. Here's Wikipedia but it seems like you can't read and know nothing since you think the US does NOT imprison political prisoners - and think "violent crimes" are the cause of most imprisonment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_prisoners_in_the_United_States
You had a chance to refute Diane enumerated points, but instead resorted to attacking the person instead of her ideas. You blab on about greed and inhumanity when you can’t muster the goodwill to be kind and reasonable in dialogue.
If you have some background in homelessness issues why not add to the conversation with more than two platitudes. Diane’s post provided many very specific actions that could be taken with which you obviously take issue. Fine. You could explain your opposition, but instead you level very personal insults and when questioned about this behavior you do it again.
Unlike this woman, I worked for a total of 16 years of my working life to develop and provide housing for the homeless. The solution is to limit the ability of investors and financial institutions to charge ever spiraling rents and to increase interest rates at will. If you understood the least thing about the history of home ownership and property ownership in the west, and especially in the US, you'd know what I say is true. The pursuit of ever-spiraling profits for owners/investors/banks is not sustainable when salaries/wages and income is level or shrinking. Someone who writes something in total isolation which is absolutely incorrect, beginning with false premises - does not deserve a detailed response. No one involved in this at a national level is ever going to make an impact by doing the endless, limitless nonproductive b.s. they have been doing for the past 40 years. It's just going to get worse until the poor people storm the WH.
“Wellness, happiness, peaceful living, positive thoughts. Articles on nutrition and wellness will always be fully-researched with sources - be happy and healthy!!”
SCOTUS refused to take up the appeal by the city of Boise leaving the the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals decision intact.
Martin vs. Boise:
“The court ruled that enforcement of ordinances that prohibit sleeping or camping on public property against homeless individuals is unconstitutional when those individuals do not have a meaningful alternative, such as shelter space or a legal place to camp.1 The Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause of the Eighth Amendment prohibits the imposition of criminal penalties for sitting, sleeping or lying outside on public property for homeless individuals who cannot obtain shelter.”
Local governments are stuck providing expensive housing that in most cases fails to get people off the streets.
You suck donkey balls you spoiled hipster brat
Better to remain silent and thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt
I think this is a very reasonable set of proposals. Thank you for writing this.
Useful idiots being played by developers and their bureaucrats. The Tenderloin was borne out of another genetation's "affordable housing" movement.
Thank you. The incentives listed would be a good start. But there needs to be a support system in place for after they’re housed. Most will fail due to ongoing addiction or just not having any lifeskills, ie knowing how to cook, clean, shop, budget money, etc. Even with welfare paying the rent guaranteeing a roof, they just don’t know how to live under one.
Then there’s the rehabs. They are usually sent back to their home without support. If the building or area allow active users (which is how they got in in the first place) they are easy prey and fall right back into addiction.
There is so much that needs to be done besides just housing. And dropping the rent to “affordable” is only a drop in the bucket. Until the problem is looked at wholistically, it will continue to be a problem.
Could you provide details or point me to where I could find details about the cash housing assistance? I’m having trouble finding details online, but I assume they prob wouldn’t just advertise that right on the homepage. My friend and I don’t even live in California, but we were discussing this the other day, and like probably a lot of people, genuinely puzzled about why it’s so bad, and why no one does anything about it. I mean San Fran has this reputation as this like super liberal city, and maybe it is, but it’s not like it’s socialist to my knowledge, and I feel like the liberals are just as fed up anyways. So yea I’m definitely curious about what material incentives/programs/subsidies the city provides, so if you could help me find details on like concrete programs, and who and how they’re being used, I’d be obliged.
https://www.sfhsa.org/services/financial-assistance/county-adult-assistance-programs-caap
What in GOD'S Name do you think you are doing? Stop talking about things you know absolutely nothing about and blaming others. People are homeless due to greed and inhumanity. And you would be counted among that.
If you have so much empathy for homeless people you ought to be able to muster up some empathy for someone who is writing about the issue, even if she's incorrect in your view. If the root problem is inhumanity then be an example.
People are homeless due to the greed of investors and financiers, who have gone to the utmost extreme throughout nearly every industrialized nation that does not have means to provide affordable housing. The entire original blog is based on false premises. Time and again rent collusion has been shown to increase rent prices and "economics" is complete b.s. because the reality is, our culture allows unlimited rents to be charged and provides tax subsidies and benefits to property owners and investors. Housing is even more expensive in every other English-speaking country and the only solutions are those found in non-English speaking countries. The OP is correct that "building more housing" won't solve the problem because in the US alone, there are 17 to 18 million vacant homes, far more than there are people who need a roof over their heads. The problem is rampant financialism and massive unchecked greed that everyone who has a place and decent house payment ignores.
The US is not an outlier in homelessness.
Coercive states like North Korea, Cuba and the USSR have "solved" homelessness, in part by building lots of housing, in part by imprisoning rule breakers, in part by lying about statistics and in part by having favorable demographics. But overall it's a global, English-speaking AND non-English-speaking problem that has always existed.
Do you know how many people are in prison in the U.S.? In raw numbers and percent of population, the U.S. has the world’s largest prison & jail population.
I gave the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Homelessness their tour of Skid Row DTLA and South Los Angeles in 2010. The 2020 one wrote the same report - only WORSE.
Continue to share your expertise.
Yes, but we don't coerce people into building housing and we don't imprison people for speaking up against the government. We tend to imprison people for repeated convictions for violet crimes, the average inmate having been convicted of around 5 times and charged nearly a dozen times.
The US is almost unique in that it has large segments of the population that commit violent crime at a high rate as well as the state capacity to arrest and imprison them. If Latin America, for example, had a similar state capacity they would have a larger proportion of incarcerated. If Western Europe or Japan had similar rates of crime they would also imprison as much as we do, if not more. Russia is one of the few places with both a lot of violence and a state that arrests a lot, and consequently it actually approaches are level of incarceration.
It's disappointing that our liaisons to the UN seem to be so emotional and lacking in informed perspective.
Who is "we"? Julian Assange was just released after being held in solitary confinement in UK on US charges since 2019, he was in some form of confinement since 2010. I'll just cite Wikipedia. By the way, Mr/Ms Anonymous, I have consulted on Nat Sec issues for the past 7-8 years. The US is in extremely bad shape and there will only be more homeless unless there is a change of course away from the laissez-faire policies which have led to this horrible situation. Here's Wikipedia but it seems like you can't read and know nothing since you think the US does NOT imprison political prisoners - and think "violent crimes" are the cause of most imprisonment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_prisoners_in_the_United_States
You had a chance to refute Diane enumerated points, but instead resorted to attacking the person instead of her ideas. You blab on about greed and inhumanity when you can’t muster the goodwill to be kind and reasonable in dialogue.
Blab on? That's 3 sentences, Krause. I am a former housing & econ development exec. I also stated why people are homeless. "People are homeless due to greed and inhumanity." Those are the two primary reasons. You're worse than this cruel and ignorant young woman. https://asterling.medium.com/why-are-there-so-many-homeless-people-75e141c907de?sk=bf23478017224222efd8d55fac86110e
If you have some background in homelessness issues why not add to the conversation with more than two platitudes. Diane’s post provided many very specific actions that could be taken with which you obviously take issue. Fine. You could explain your opposition, but instead you level very personal insults and when questioned about this behavior you do it again.
Unlike this woman, I worked for a total of 16 years of my working life to develop and provide housing for the homeless. The solution is to limit the ability of investors and financial institutions to charge ever spiraling rents and to increase interest rates at will. If you understood the least thing about the history of home ownership and property ownership in the west, and especially in the US, you'd know what I say is true. The pursuit of ever-spiraling profits for owners/investors/banks is not sustainable when salaries/wages and income is level or shrinking. Someone who writes something in total isolation which is absolutely incorrect, beginning with false premises - does not deserve a detailed response. No one involved in this at a national level is ever going to make an impact by doing the endless, limitless nonproductive b.s. they have been doing for the past 40 years. It's just going to get worse until the poor people storm the WH.
Here’s the tagline from your blog:
“Wellness, happiness, peaceful living, positive thoughts. Articles on nutrition and wellness will always be fully-researched with sources - be happy and healthy!!”
There's no point in talking to neoliberal or neocon losers who want to waste time arguing how to not assist suffering strangers.
SCOTUS refused to take up the appeal by the city of Boise leaving the the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals decision intact.
Martin vs. Boise:
“The court ruled that enforcement of ordinances that prohibit sleeping or camping on public property against homeless individuals is unconstitutional when those individuals do not have a meaningful alternative, such as shelter space or a legal place to camp.1 The Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause of the Eighth Amendment prohibits the imposition of criminal penalties for sitting, sleeping or lying outside on public property for homeless individuals who cannot obtain shelter.”
Local governments are stuck providing expensive housing that in most cases fails to get people off the streets.
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